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# Recent LLM launches, and LLM rumors
- URL: https://www.taivo.ai/__recent-llm-launches-and-llm-rumors/
- Published: 2024-01-23T12:45:15.000Z
- Updated: 2026-08-04T11:20:15.000Z
- Author: Taivo Pungas
- Tags: Everything else, stream

Llama 3 [is already](https://www.axios.com/2024/01/18/zuckerberg-meta-llama-3-ai?ref=taivo.ai) training according to Zuck. There are conflicting sources & rumors, and the release date claims vary across all of 2024.

For GPT-5 there are even no reliable rumors; if training started within the past few months then my back of napkin is that it may be launched early 2025, because OpenAI has \~2 year major version cycle; GPT-4 launched early 2023.

*Mixtral*, released in Dec’23, is supposed to beat GPT-3.5 Turbo, Claude-2.1, Gemini Pro, and Llama 2 70B. I haven't tried it.

Regarding other notable models, the [LLM Leaderboard](https://huggingface.co/spaces/HuggingFaceH4/open%5Fllm%5Fleaderboard?ref=taivo.ai) has tons of fine-tunes. Note that [Qwen-72B](https://github.com/QwenLM/Qwen?ref=taivo.ai) (Released Dec’23) and [Yi](https://github.com/01-ai/Yi?ref=taivo.ai) (Nov’23) based fine-tunes are at the top.